Hi everyone, (or: anyone out there who still follows this..)
I know it's been quite a while and I kinda disappeared.
In my last post I kind of covered and unvealed the TRUE knowledge one should know about approaching and opening conversations with women, and I kind of left it unfinished, so here I am to finish this series of posts.
Before I continue, there is something I want to say here.
I have no idea who is still following my blog posts, because A. I haven't written here for a while and B. I removed any links to this blog from any forums I post on. The reason I removed my blog is because there are alot of people in the so called "seduction community" that even though they try to create an image that they care about helping people, what they realy are in reality are scammers who do nothing but steal materials form others and sell it for money. And exactly because of people like those I stopped posting and stopped sharing almost ANY knowledge I have on the internet, except for here.
This blog is more about being my own place that I have built for myself and for the purpose of keeping these notes for myself. So if you are one of the people who still follow what I write, I admire you and welcome you and I'm definitely sure you are going to get alot of benefits from reading what I share here.
OK, so now once I've cleared this out, here we go with the last part about knowing the techniques to seduce (or actually get results) with women.
Although I know this post is entitled "Techniques", actually alot of this post is going to be about mindsets and understandings. I may include some techniques and may not. So, enjoy!
So here we are with the question we left last time: WHAT DO YOU DO AFTER THE APPROACH/OPENER?
OK. Let's do a brief review about the approach and the opener's purposes are: The approach is meant to create an opportunity for an interaction, the opener is meant to start a conversation AND see how the woman responds to it. This is a realy crucial part. How she responds to it will determine EVERYTHING.
Actually there are signs you can look for even before you approach the woman that may indicated she's interested in meeting you:
1. Most evident - She turns her entire bodylanguage towards your direction. This is an obvious IOI. An important understanding: DON'T WAIT FOR HER EYE CONTACT. Eye contact is just ONE of the many interest signs women give. I know you may see it like this in movies, but in reality alot of women DON'T HAVE THE BALLS IT TAKES to look a man in the eyes, so they give alot of other signs that are just as equally strong. Remember: People are driven by emotions. When an emotion takes over them (In this case: An intrigue/interest to meet a guy..) she can't entirely fake it that she's not interested. AT SOME LEVEL HER INTEREST TOWARDS YOU WILL COME OUT. I'm giving you here more than one way to notice it :-)
2. She sits and-or positions herselfs CLOSE to you. Again, obvious IOI. If you don't understand why, maybe the next will clear this up for you..
3. She glanced at your direction MORE than once. Again, I know these may be small signs but there's an important psychological understanding to realize behind them - Women at some level KNOW that guys want to approach them (Especially the hotter they are!) and may even want it themselves as well. I don't know how it is abroad but I know for certain that alot of women in Israel, had experiences of very uncomfortable interactions with guys. This is reality. I'm sure EVERY WOMAN experienced this in her life LOL, so obvious. So anyway - when women give these small signs they KNOW that a guy may approach them, so they will be VERY CAREFUL about not giving those signs to the wrong people (Or: someone they DON'T want to approach them). So if they DO GIVE YOU THESE SIGNS, You are 100% -IN-. If she realy didn't want you to approach her she would never give those signs.
OK, That's as far as the approaching. Now, once you opened again it's almost the same psychological understanding here - women KNOW they can be stalked. So if she:
1. Gives you a lengthy and invested response
2. Smiles when she talks to you
3. Initiates a continuation for the interaction (Even if it's a small one..)
That means she is IN. SHE WANTS YOU TO CONTINUE. Again, for the same understanding.
So now comes the part of the HOW/WHAT to do AFTER the opener.
I will assume, for this part, that you have opened the woman and she gave you a good response and basically appears to be interested and enjoying the interaction.
Here's what to do in order to get a result or "seduction" with the woman:
PART ONE - WHAT YOU ARE AIMING AT
Basically, if you want to get a result, you have to aim at three main things in the interaction:
1. Comfort - very important!
2. Interest
3. Heat (Or: sexual arousal)
Here's the thing: If you only give her "Comfort", you are nothing but a "Nice guy" to her. She may take you for a long term relationship if you have alot of money (LOL) but most of the times she'll just forget about you if you don't combine at least being interesting to her (Which is the next part). Always remember: Comfort is just the bread and butter for the seduction. It only serves as a base ground to be able to start seducing her from. It's quite logical - she must feel comfortable about the whole thing. This is why I covered approaching & opening in detail in the LAST POST.
What creates comfort? Well laughter, Being non-threatning of course, taking her to a place she enjoys and finding the right vibe & format she responds best to. More on this in a few moments.
What about "Interest"? Well if you only give her interest, aka: She enjoys her time with YOU, she likes talking to you, she likes the things you two do together, well that's really cool and great... for a "FRIEND"!! Remember: Women have guy friends. They never sleep with them, though. But they do hang out with them, talk to them for hours on the phone. What is a "friend"? Well it's the combination of Comfort & Interest. Of course - they REALY ENJOY the time with those guy friends. Some of those guy friends may even be MORE INTERESTING to them than their current lover. But in the end of the day, again, they don't fuck the guy friend UNLESS he creates Heat & Desire.... and that is the next and last part of the equation:
"Heat". Heat is the real deal with women if you want to sleep with them. This is realy what seduces them to the bedroom. When there's Heat (combined with Comfort usually..) there's SEX. And if there's no sex, then at least there is an anticipation FOR sex. And when there is an anticipation for sex, you become something that is WORTH her time. And when you meet again, just focus on arousing her sexually. THIS IS WHAT THEY REALY WANT. Look back at the equation! There's a wrong conception about women being less horny than guys and not wanting sex the same. It's BULLSHIT. If you check the facts, and look at women who are sexually satisfied - they want the sex ALL THE TIME, Sometimes more than we do! Women are highly addicted creatures especially as far as body pleasures go. Sex, for women is a complete body sensational experience and pleasure just as much as (and usually ALOT MORE than..) massages, oils and pedicure. Women LOVE their body and women LOVE how they feel in their body. And women will HIGHLY VALUE any man that can AROUSE them and/or make them feel GREAT in their BODY. This is how MOST of them get actually aroused. It's NOT A FUCKING CRIME to try and seduce a woman. I mean think about it - women are not ashamed of seducing us, guys, sexually. They dress hot and they invest in their looks on purpose to turn us, guys, ON. So you have every right to seduce women and in fact you MUST, if you ever want to get sex and or love.
Heat is what realy makes all the difference towards sex. And you can become a MASTER at arousing women sexually... you know why? Because 99% of the guys just DON'T EVEN TRY. Guys are so focused about just "talking" and/or "flirting" with women. I don't say that women don't like being flirted or talked to. But when you start touching them and/or BRINGING UP topics of sex and arousal, then you realy become someone "interesting" to her more than just a friend. I mean think about it - most "friends" are guys they know for ages, since school etc. When you meet a woman in cold approach, you don't have years to become her "friend" so don't even try. Focus on becoming her most amazing lover she ever had. Yes, that may sound like you have to become a kind of a "whore". Well, I didn't say provide your services for free or to any woman. MANY WOMEN DON'T DESERVE IT. But.. if she's open, receptive, interested and looks eager at the interaction - you CAN give her the gift of becoming the most amazing lover she ever had, and she wants it!
Whew... that was alot, but that's realy the basic of what you should do.
Now let's move over and unpack each and one of those in detail..
The right way (or mindset) to look at how the interaction builds up AFTER the opener:
An interaction with a woman is NEVER a fixed or linear thing. Yes there can be roadmaps or basic "goals" to achieve, like the ones I laid out in the previous section. But in reality, ANY INTERACTION with ANY WOMAN is realy an EXPERIMENTATION. You never know what kind of a person she is, what she best responds to, what intrigues her and how she becomes aroused BEFORE YOU INTERACT with her. So you can NEVER make assumptions. EVEN if she looks interested in you, you still have to go and find out. So you can already write down this first attitude when you approach to open an interaction with a woman:
"Let's experiment and see how it goes.."
Now, there are 3 main "areas" you can experiment with once you opened her (big credits to Ross Jeffries here!):
1. Vibe - Your vibe, that is. Any woman responds best and most strongly to a certain vibe (or vibes). Some women are funny people so they will hardly ever respond well to a "serious" (or more dominant) vibe. Other women get turned off by a funny guy and gets more turned on by a dominant (and "serious") guy. Some women realy can't stand a dominant person and want an honest and vulnerable guy. Some women even respond best to a WEAK and sensitive (even shy) guy. Some women are so filled with life and so sick of all the guys trying to dominate or tell stories to them that they feel they have alot they want to share and they want someone who can just LISTEN to them talking! So you see it's realy dynamic, there's NO ONE FIXED VIBE THAT FITS ALL. What's the best way to know? Well, experiment and find out!!! (It's the only way realy) How will you find out? Try playing with your vibes a little. (BTW: If you don't have a dominant character in your tool box.. start developing one! Stand in front of the mirror in your house and practice. Believe me guys - you CAN become ANY person you want. And it's not that big deal, all it takes is just some basic rehearsing and the mind has a wonderful mechanism of muscle memory to remember everything you rehearsed to come out naturally in the field.). When you start playing and shifting your vibes, you WILL NOTICE, at some point, that the woman suddenly locks her eyes into you, doesn't look away, and seem to hang on every word you say and/or give you the eyescan. That's usually very obvious and noticable sign that tells you you're on the right track.
2. Formats - A format is basically a communication structure. It can be a question, a story, a joke, a cocky/funny comment, a game, a quiz, a demonstration, etc. Some women are realy intrigued from a guy who shows genuine interest in them so they LOVE questions. Some women realy like to be shared stories with. Some women are into funny stuff / jokes. Some women are realy into demos, quizes and finding out new stuff they didn't know before. Again, there's no one fixed thing here, and usually any "normal" interaction between people combines more than one format: I mean you can't just sit there all evening and ask her questions. That's realy bizzare and feels like an interrogation :-) You must share some stuff sometimes too, but if you see she responds MOST STRONGLY to questions, then you can structure MOST of your seduction to be based on questions. If you see she responds best to jokes, structure MOST of your interaction around jokes. If you see she responds best to you sharing stuff with her, do that. Get my point?
3. Themes/Topics - The themes (or topics) of conversations you choose are another aspect you can play and experiment with. My own personal belief is that any woman (or person) RESPONDS to something. Even if she looks like a shallow person, somewhere inside of her there is a strong desire and responds to something. There are some common themes you can usually talk to women and most of them will respond to them - things like indulgence of all sorts (food, body, pleasures..), connections and-or understanding people and their actions (they talk about this ALOT between themselves!), trips to abroad, television shows, live performers (or bands/music) etc. There's a broad range of themes and topics you can choose, the best ones will be the ones she responds most strongly to and is eager to talk alot about. If she feels compelled to talk alot about some subject - UNLESS it's her boyfriend or some guy she wants, which you must avoid at all costs.. but if she likes talking about shopping? Talk with her about shopping! It makes sense to her. Shopping may not be something that you are highly interested in, true. You may be more into writing music or reading books.. but while this may be interesting to you, to HER it may be BORING and uncomfortable. But if she gets all passionate about shopping... then avoiding this subject will be nothing but a stupidity. TALK TO HER AS MUCH AS YOU WANT ABOUT SHOPPING! This way, she gets all excited about the interaction with you and it becomes something she enjoys and remember - how she feels is the most important thing to you! So again, themes and topics are another aspect you can experiment with and when you find one she enjoys talking about you will almost surely notice her starting to open up and talk more.
Things to notice that let's you know you're in the right track or wrong track:
1. Body language - Open or Close? If she closes her body language (like - holds her hands in a position that closes her chest) that's a sign you're on the WRONG track. If you see her, however, losening up and especially if her body language opens up entirely - that means you're on the RIGHT track.
2. Investment on her part - Is she participating alot? If yes, you're on the right track. If not, then you're on the wrong track. Switch the vibe, format or theme and try again.
Basically the general model of operation is the same like in NLP's T.O.T.E - Test, Operate, Test, Exit.
With women, you always test her responses. A general attitude and rule here is this:
Her responses are the most important thing and guide to your seduction. Her responses will guide you to what are the right vibes, formats and themes that will open up and seduce her.
So you always try something, and see how she responds. If you don't get a good response, you just change the tools and try again. NEVER make assumptions that a woman doesn't want to talk you or isn't interested. If she's still there, and not giving you any bad responses but neutral or "weak" responses, that just means that what you tried now just didn't create a response in her. THAT'S ALL. It doesn't mean NOTHING else. If she gets up and leaves or asks you to stop or gives you realy bad vibe or sign to leave, then you can leave and "exit". But my experience has taught me that 99% of the times women NEVER give you bad responses. They either just don't respond to something you do, respond in a neutral/weak way, respond in a good way, or respond in a great way!
So as you can see, an interaction is alot about experimenting and trying different things and noticing how she responds to it and adapting according to it until you find the "good" and "correct" path that she starts opening up the most to. This is the real game and the real skill guys. The more flexible you are here, the more vibes you can introduce, the more formats you can induce, and the more themes and topics of conversations you can introduce, the better you are and you could eventually be able to open and connect with any woman and seduce any woman. It's all about your flexibility here. Guys who are not as flexible or who are not as tuned in to how the woman responds and adapt accordignly WILL get shut down by alot of women that YOU WILL SUCCEED WITH, simply because you can adapt to them better than those guys. And feel good about any challenge! Any woman that you meet who may be difficult to connect at first is a golden opportunity for you to increase your skill by trying more tools. This is kind of like an "advanced" level in a computer game. Believe me, When you reach the point that you can approach a woman that at first sits with her entire body language closed to you and doesn't participate.. and turn her around so that she suddenly opens up and is all into you - THEN, my friend, you'll know that you have advanced to masters level in the game :-)
Also, there is another very important rule here you must internalize:
When you see she's ready, STOP seducing and start CLOSING!!!!!
Yes, this assumes she in fact MIGHT be ready at any moment. This is realy how it is with women. Women can get turned on and actually be ready for you to close them (physically!!) even after a minute into approaching. How do you notice that she's ready?
1. She starts playing with her hair. Most obvious sign there is. She leans forward, plays with her hair and becomes all feminine.
2. She starts touching you.
3. Her entire body language is open, towars you, and she keeps looking at you alot.
When you see any of these signs, EVEN if it's after a minute into approach, stop seducing and start closing. Women have these moments when they feel ready - when their interest level, or "buying temperture" how they like to call it in the seduction community, is IN THE ROOF. THESE ARE THE MOMENTS SHE IS MOST READY AND MOST LIKELY TO FLOW WITH A "CLOSE". So just look carefully and notice those moments. Think about it like selling ice cream to a kid, when is he more likely to buy? If he is totally eager and wants it NOW? Or if he just had a meal? You see, when you miss those moments when the girl is ready (although i HATE to use the word "miss" because you generally speaking never miss anything. In every 5-10 minutes you can meet a new woman who is just as hot and pretty!), but in terms of timing.. women have a tendency to have these "spikes" moments of high readiness for closure, and after them they "fractionate" out of it back to "normal" mode (and especially if you bring up a boring subject... LOL. See how bad it is? It's alot better to try and fucking KISS HER when she's ready than to keep talking cause it will just cool her off and bring down her excitement and then when you try to close she "won't feel like it".. as they always say. You KNOW they "go with how they feel" right? So close them, or even propose a venue change.. ANYTHING - when you see THEY ARE READY, and they will 99% of the times agree because this is just HOW WOMEN ARE - they are EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN. They feel it? They do it! So when they feel excited and ready - START CLOSING!!).
Is that all?
No, but that's definitely enough for alot of women. You see, My belief is that many women, if they are already attracted to you, just need to "feel right" about doing it. And getting them to feel right is just through using everything I just explained above - experimenting with your vibes, formats and themes to get an ongoing, enjoyable, exciting interaction. For many women that is all they need, and once you get it they'll start showing you they are ready to be closed. They will start playing with their hair, lean forward, and everything I just said. THAT IS ENOUGH my friends. When you see them go this way, CLOSE, and you it will most likely succeed.
Although still everything I just explained above is related to creating Comfort and (mainly) Interest. You see, you may not have years to become her "friend". But if you can instantly find what she responds best to, she will definitely enjoy every moment with you , may even get turned on .. and all of this EVEN if it's not a sexual thing.
However, now I want to finish this post with talking about the last but not least and probably most important of all, how to create Heat, Arousal and Desire!
HEAT:
Ok, so like I said you can do all the above and alot of women will get to a point when they start sending you this "I'm ready" signals. Then you can propose isolation, and even close them physically (if the logistics allow it, if not - propose isolation).
Then in the isolation, or even before, or even at any moment of the interaction ONCE you've got her feeling comfortable with you and enjoying her time with you, you must start moving things to a sexual direction in order to become a lover.
How do you do it?
1. Kino and Touch. One of the strongest arousing things to women, as they are very sensitive in their body and they respond very strongly to body sensations. To say it short - when you become a great toucher that women enjoy your touch, it starts activating those arousal circuits. To some women a good touch is all she needs to conclude that you may be a wonderful lover. I believe that almost any woman out there LIKES and enjoys a good touch, although it may or may not arouse some and others not.
2. A Kiss. This is again related to kino and touch, but a good kiss can be one of the most turning on things to a woman. Learn how to kiss properly, so that when the time comes (or: she shows you "she's ready") and you're in isolation, you kiss her so passionately she'll drip her pants off! A golden tip here: always go for kissing her on the neck first before the lips. The neck is one of the most erotic spots in a woman's body, and when kissed properly in this spot alone, you can get a woman dripping wet in less than a minute. A good kiss on the neck is, in my opinion, the best tool you can use to get her all heated up and ready for sex.
3. Sexual themes. Women can get unbelievably turned on from talking about sex alone just like we do. The guys in the community who say "women don't get turned on from words, just touch" is nothing but BULLSHIT. Women get turned on from talking about sex JUST AS MUCH as we are. It all depends how you introduce it and when. If you do it after comfort and interest is there, it will work. If you try to do it as your first move it will almost always look wierd and creepy although even that CAN work sometimes LOL... Anyways, I usually like to start by talking about what a wonderful massage feels like. Women realy tend to visualize almost anything you say very vividly. And if you can describe a perfect massage to her, and preferably do it in a VAGUE language that she can fill in with her own most desired way of massaging (thanks Ross Jeffries again for this!), she will almost likely get VERY TURNED ON FROM IT and want it right now! Never underestimate the power of words. Again - how she responds will tell you. Maybe she just wants to get physical, and maybe she needs to be turned on verbally first. Only your experimentation and testing will reveal the answer to this!
4. Sexual Ambiguity. OK, Sometimes the situation doesn't allow any physical move, and talking to her directly about a sexual theme may scare her or completely alarm her. That doesn't mean she doesn't want it, it just means you have to use a more "sneaky" way to get her turned on, and that's where sexual ambiguities come in. For example: "One of my best friends, Dick, has a very long.. and thick.. hair, that he always keeps talking about" (Slightly emphasizing the marked words, not blatantly so she notices it, but in a way that A. Makes these word stand out a little, B. Make the whole thing feel as if you say it naturally so it is not noticed consciously by her). See what I did? You put in the word "Dick", "Very long" and "Thick".. and even though the sentence itself talks about your friend, Dick, it contains words in it that CAN BE INTERPRETED in the other "meaning" they have :-) (Which is sexual). This "injects" sexual ideas and images to the mind of a woman in a way that feels, to her, as if it came from within herself - as if SHE'S the one who thought about it. And the good thing about it is that you can include it in any theme or conversation. Although a small tip here - they will usually be more noticed (or interpreted sexually) if you brought up any sexual topic BEFORE them, even in a way that doesn't feel like YOU said it (maybe quote someone..). Anyways, it still doesn't change the fact that it makes her THINK about a LONG AND THICK DICK (LOL!). And .. do you think that if she thinks about it.. it doesn't turn her on? Think again my friend. Boy oh boy do they get turned on from it, and yes it may even go all around in her mind so that she starts thinking about whether or not YOUR DICK is long and thick.. and if she starts thinking THAT.. the way from here to sex, or to her to start giving you the "I'm ready" signals is VERY short.
So you see? Even as fast as the heat goes, there's more than one way to use, and again I can't realy tell you which way would work best although usually once a woman feels comfortable and interested you can just start touching her and see how she responds. In my experience, MOST WOMEN responds VERY GOOD to touching that I just assume that touch and kino, as well as a good kiss on the neck, are my top 2 ways to get women turned on, which is why I listed them both here. In my experience, almost ANY TIME I managed to start kissing a girl on the neck in a passionate way it ALWAYS led to sex and the bedroom. They just get so dripping wet from it it's as powerful, on them, the effect just as much as when you have an erection for a woman.
And again remember, I get back to Heat: just doing Comfort and Interest, while they speed up your process tremendously and lay out the best and ideal base ground to seduce her, I see them only as another step before actually starting to heat the girl up sexually which is what you TRUELY want from the interaction.
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
OK.
And that's it for this post.
-- leedrag0n.
I know it's been quite a while and I kinda disappeared.
In my last post I kind of covered and unvealed the TRUE knowledge one should know about approaching and opening conversations with women, and I kind of left it unfinished, so here I am to finish this series of posts.
Before I continue, there is something I want to say here.
I have no idea who is still following my blog posts, because A. I haven't written here for a while and B. I removed any links to this blog from any forums I post on. The reason I removed my blog is because there are alot of people in the so called "seduction community" that even though they try to create an image that they care about helping people, what they realy are in reality are scammers who do nothing but steal materials form others and sell it for money. And exactly because of people like those I stopped posting and stopped sharing almost ANY knowledge I have on the internet, except for here.
This blog is more about being my own place that I have built for myself and for the purpose of keeping these notes for myself. So if you are one of the people who still follow what I write, I admire you and welcome you and I'm definitely sure you are going to get alot of benefits from reading what I share here.
OK, so now once I've cleared this out, here we go with the last part about knowing the techniques to seduce (or actually get results) with women.
Although I know this post is entitled "Techniques", actually alot of this post is going to be about mindsets and understandings. I may include some techniques and may not. So, enjoy!
So here we are with the question we left last time: WHAT DO YOU DO AFTER THE APPROACH/OPENER?
OK. Let's do a brief review about the approach and the opener's purposes are: The approach is meant to create an opportunity for an interaction, the opener is meant to start a conversation AND see how the woman responds to it. This is a realy crucial part. How she responds to it will determine EVERYTHING.
Actually there are signs you can look for even before you approach the woman that may indicated she's interested in meeting you:
1. Most evident - She turns her entire bodylanguage towards your direction. This is an obvious IOI. An important understanding: DON'T WAIT FOR HER EYE CONTACT. Eye contact is just ONE of the many interest signs women give. I know you may see it like this in movies, but in reality alot of women DON'T HAVE THE BALLS IT TAKES to look a man in the eyes, so they give alot of other signs that are just as equally strong. Remember: People are driven by emotions. When an emotion takes over them (In this case: An intrigue/interest to meet a guy..) she can't entirely fake it that she's not interested. AT SOME LEVEL HER INTEREST TOWARDS YOU WILL COME OUT. I'm giving you here more than one way to notice it :-)
2. She sits and-or positions herselfs CLOSE to you. Again, obvious IOI. If you don't understand why, maybe the next will clear this up for you..
3. She glanced at your direction MORE than once. Again, I know these may be small signs but there's an important psychological understanding to realize behind them - Women at some level KNOW that guys want to approach them (Especially the hotter they are!) and may even want it themselves as well. I don't know how it is abroad but I know for certain that alot of women in Israel, had experiences of very uncomfortable interactions with guys. This is reality. I'm sure EVERY WOMAN experienced this in her life LOL, so obvious. So anyway - when women give these small signs they KNOW that a guy may approach them, so they will be VERY CAREFUL about not giving those signs to the wrong people (Or: someone they DON'T want to approach them). So if they DO GIVE YOU THESE SIGNS, You are 100% -IN-. If she realy didn't want you to approach her she would never give those signs.
OK, That's as far as the approaching. Now, once you opened again it's almost the same psychological understanding here - women KNOW they can be stalked. So if she:
1. Gives you a lengthy and invested response
2. Smiles when she talks to you
3. Initiates a continuation for the interaction (Even if it's a small one..)
That means she is IN. SHE WANTS YOU TO CONTINUE. Again, for the same understanding.
So now comes the part of the HOW/WHAT to do AFTER the opener.
I will assume, for this part, that you have opened the woman and she gave you a good response and basically appears to be interested and enjoying the interaction.
Here's what to do in order to get a result or "seduction" with the woman:
PART ONE - WHAT YOU ARE AIMING AT
Basically, if you want to get a result, you have to aim at three main things in the interaction:
1. Comfort - very important!
2. Interest
3. Heat (Or: sexual arousal)
Here's the thing: If you only give her "Comfort", you are nothing but a "Nice guy" to her. She may take you for a long term relationship if you have alot of money (LOL) but most of the times she'll just forget about you if you don't combine at least being interesting to her (Which is the next part). Always remember: Comfort is just the bread and butter for the seduction. It only serves as a base ground to be able to start seducing her from. It's quite logical - she must feel comfortable about the whole thing. This is why I covered approaching & opening in detail in the LAST POST.
What creates comfort? Well laughter, Being non-threatning of course, taking her to a place she enjoys and finding the right vibe & format she responds best to. More on this in a few moments.
What about "Interest"? Well if you only give her interest, aka: She enjoys her time with YOU, she likes talking to you, she likes the things you two do together, well that's really cool and great... for a "FRIEND"!! Remember: Women have guy friends. They never sleep with them, though. But they do hang out with them, talk to them for hours on the phone. What is a "friend"? Well it's the combination of Comfort & Interest. Of course - they REALY ENJOY the time with those guy friends. Some of those guy friends may even be MORE INTERESTING to them than their current lover. But in the end of the day, again, they don't fuck the guy friend UNLESS he creates Heat & Desire.... and that is the next and last part of the equation:
"Heat". Heat is the real deal with women if you want to sleep with them. This is realy what seduces them to the bedroom. When there's Heat (combined with Comfort usually..) there's SEX. And if there's no sex, then at least there is an anticipation FOR sex. And when there is an anticipation for sex, you become something that is WORTH her time. And when you meet again, just focus on arousing her sexually. THIS IS WHAT THEY REALY WANT. Look back at the equation! There's a wrong conception about women being less horny than guys and not wanting sex the same. It's BULLSHIT. If you check the facts, and look at women who are sexually satisfied - they want the sex ALL THE TIME, Sometimes more than we do! Women are highly addicted creatures especially as far as body pleasures go. Sex, for women is a complete body sensational experience and pleasure just as much as (and usually ALOT MORE than..) massages, oils and pedicure. Women LOVE their body and women LOVE how they feel in their body. And women will HIGHLY VALUE any man that can AROUSE them and/or make them feel GREAT in their BODY. This is how MOST of them get actually aroused. It's NOT A FUCKING CRIME to try and seduce a woman. I mean think about it - women are not ashamed of seducing us, guys, sexually. They dress hot and they invest in their looks on purpose to turn us, guys, ON. So you have every right to seduce women and in fact you MUST, if you ever want to get sex and or love.
Heat is what realy makes all the difference towards sex. And you can become a MASTER at arousing women sexually... you know why? Because 99% of the guys just DON'T EVEN TRY. Guys are so focused about just "talking" and/or "flirting" with women. I don't say that women don't like being flirted or talked to. But when you start touching them and/or BRINGING UP topics of sex and arousal, then you realy become someone "interesting" to her more than just a friend. I mean think about it - most "friends" are guys they know for ages, since school etc. When you meet a woman in cold approach, you don't have years to become her "friend" so don't even try. Focus on becoming her most amazing lover she ever had. Yes, that may sound like you have to become a kind of a "whore". Well, I didn't say provide your services for free or to any woman. MANY WOMEN DON'T DESERVE IT. But.. if she's open, receptive, interested and looks eager at the interaction - you CAN give her the gift of becoming the most amazing lover she ever had, and she wants it!
Whew... that was alot, but that's realy the basic of what you should do.
Now let's move over and unpack each and one of those in detail..
The right way (or mindset) to look at how the interaction builds up AFTER the opener:
An interaction with a woman is NEVER a fixed or linear thing. Yes there can be roadmaps or basic "goals" to achieve, like the ones I laid out in the previous section. But in reality, ANY INTERACTION with ANY WOMAN is realy an EXPERIMENTATION. You never know what kind of a person she is, what she best responds to, what intrigues her and how she becomes aroused BEFORE YOU INTERACT with her. So you can NEVER make assumptions. EVEN if she looks interested in you, you still have to go and find out. So you can already write down this first attitude when you approach to open an interaction with a woman:
"Let's experiment and see how it goes.."
Now, there are 3 main "areas" you can experiment with once you opened her (big credits to Ross Jeffries here!):
1. Vibe - Your vibe, that is. Any woman responds best and most strongly to a certain vibe (or vibes). Some women are funny people so they will hardly ever respond well to a "serious" (or more dominant) vibe. Other women get turned off by a funny guy and gets more turned on by a dominant (and "serious") guy. Some women realy can't stand a dominant person and want an honest and vulnerable guy. Some women even respond best to a WEAK and sensitive (even shy) guy. Some women are so filled with life and so sick of all the guys trying to dominate or tell stories to them that they feel they have alot they want to share and they want someone who can just LISTEN to them talking! So you see it's realy dynamic, there's NO ONE FIXED VIBE THAT FITS ALL. What's the best way to know? Well, experiment and find out!!! (It's the only way realy) How will you find out? Try playing with your vibes a little. (BTW: If you don't have a dominant character in your tool box.. start developing one! Stand in front of the mirror in your house and practice. Believe me guys - you CAN become ANY person you want. And it's not that big deal, all it takes is just some basic rehearsing and the mind has a wonderful mechanism of muscle memory to remember everything you rehearsed to come out naturally in the field.). When you start playing and shifting your vibes, you WILL NOTICE, at some point, that the woman suddenly locks her eyes into you, doesn't look away, and seem to hang on every word you say and/or give you the eyescan. That's usually very obvious and noticable sign that tells you you're on the right track.
2. Formats - A format is basically a communication structure. It can be a question, a story, a joke, a cocky/funny comment, a game, a quiz, a demonstration, etc. Some women are realy intrigued from a guy who shows genuine interest in them so they LOVE questions. Some women realy like to be shared stories with. Some women are into funny stuff / jokes. Some women are realy into demos, quizes and finding out new stuff they didn't know before. Again, there's no one fixed thing here, and usually any "normal" interaction between people combines more than one format: I mean you can't just sit there all evening and ask her questions. That's realy bizzare and feels like an interrogation :-) You must share some stuff sometimes too, but if you see she responds MOST STRONGLY to questions, then you can structure MOST of your seduction to be based on questions. If you see she responds best to jokes, structure MOST of your interaction around jokes. If you see she responds best to you sharing stuff with her, do that. Get my point?
3. Themes/Topics - The themes (or topics) of conversations you choose are another aspect you can play and experiment with. My own personal belief is that any woman (or person) RESPONDS to something. Even if she looks like a shallow person, somewhere inside of her there is a strong desire and responds to something. There are some common themes you can usually talk to women and most of them will respond to them - things like indulgence of all sorts (food, body, pleasures..), connections and-or understanding people and their actions (they talk about this ALOT between themselves!), trips to abroad, television shows, live performers (or bands/music) etc. There's a broad range of themes and topics you can choose, the best ones will be the ones she responds most strongly to and is eager to talk alot about. If she feels compelled to talk alot about some subject - UNLESS it's her boyfriend or some guy she wants, which you must avoid at all costs.. but if she likes talking about shopping? Talk with her about shopping! It makes sense to her. Shopping may not be something that you are highly interested in, true. You may be more into writing music or reading books.. but while this may be interesting to you, to HER it may be BORING and uncomfortable. But if she gets all passionate about shopping... then avoiding this subject will be nothing but a stupidity. TALK TO HER AS MUCH AS YOU WANT ABOUT SHOPPING! This way, she gets all excited about the interaction with you and it becomes something she enjoys and remember - how she feels is the most important thing to you! So again, themes and topics are another aspect you can experiment with and when you find one she enjoys talking about you will almost surely notice her starting to open up and talk more.
Things to notice that let's you know you're in the right track or wrong track:
1. Body language - Open or Close? If she closes her body language (like - holds her hands in a position that closes her chest) that's a sign you're on the WRONG track. If you see her, however, losening up and especially if her body language opens up entirely - that means you're on the RIGHT track.
2. Investment on her part - Is she participating alot? If yes, you're on the right track. If not, then you're on the wrong track. Switch the vibe, format or theme and try again.
Basically the general model of operation is the same like in NLP's T.O.T.E - Test, Operate, Test, Exit.
With women, you always test her responses. A general attitude and rule here is this:
Her responses are the most important thing and guide to your seduction. Her responses will guide you to what are the right vibes, formats and themes that will open up and seduce her.
So you always try something, and see how she responds. If you don't get a good response, you just change the tools and try again. NEVER make assumptions that a woman doesn't want to talk you or isn't interested. If she's still there, and not giving you any bad responses but neutral or "weak" responses, that just means that what you tried now just didn't create a response in her. THAT'S ALL. It doesn't mean NOTHING else. If she gets up and leaves or asks you to stop or gives you realy bad vibe or sign to leave, then you can leave and "exit". But my experience has taught me that 99% of the times women NEVER give you bad responses. They either just don't respond to something you do, respond in a neutral/weak way, respond in a good way, or respond in a great way!
So as you can see, an interaction is alot about experimenting and trying different things and noticing how she responds to it and adapting according to it until you find the "good" and "correct" path that she starts opening up the most to. This is the real game and the real skill guys. The more flexible you are here, the more vibes you can introduce, the more formats you can induce, and the more themes and topics of conversations you can introduce, the better you are and you could eventually be able to open and connect with any woman and seduce any woman. It's all about your flexibility here. Guys who are not as flexible or who are not as tuned in to how the woman responds and adapt accordignly WILL get shut down by alot of women that YOU WILL SUCCEED WITH, simply because you can adapt to them better than those guys. And feel good about any challenge! Any woman that you meet who may be difficult to connect at first is a golden opportunity for you to increase your skill by trying more tools. This is kind of like an "advanced" level in a computer game. Believe me, When you reach the point that you can approach a woman that at first sits with her entire body language closed to you and doesn't participate.. and turn her around so that she suddenly opens up and is all into you - THEN, my friend, you'll know that you have advanced to masters level in the game :-)
Also, there is another very important rule here you must internalize:
When you see she's ready, STOP seducing and start CLOSING!!!!!
Yes, this assumes she in fact MIGHT be ready at any moment. This is realy how it is with women. Women can get turned on and actually be ready for you to close them (physically!!) even after a minute into approaching. How do you notice that she's ready?
1. She starts playing with her hair. Most obvious sign there is. She leans forward, plays with her hair and becomes all feminine.
2. She starts touching you.
3. Her entire body language is open, towars you, and she keeps looking at you alot.
When you see any of these signs, EVEN if it's after a minute into approach, stop seducing and start closing. Women have these moments when they feel ready - when their interest level, or "buying temperture" how they like to call it in the seduction community, is IN THE ROOF. THESE ARE THE MOMENTS SHE IS MOST READY AND MOST LIKELY TO FLOW WITH A "CLOSE". So just look carefully and notice those moments. Think about it like selling ice cream to a kid, when is he more likely to buy? If he is totally eager and wants it NOW? Or if he just had a meal? You see, when you miss those moments when the girl is ready (although i HATE to use the word "miss" because you generally speaking never miss anything. In every 5-10 minutes you can meet a new woman who is just as hot and pretty!), but in terms of timing.. women have a tendency to have these "spikes" moments of high readiness for closure, and after them they "fractionate" out of it back to "normal" mode (and especially if you bring up a boring subject... LOL. See how bad it is? It's alot better to try and fucking KISS HER when she's ready than to keep talking cause it will just cool her off and bring down her excitement and then when you try to close she "won't feel like it".. as they always say. You KNOW they "go with how they feel" right? So close them, or even propose a venue change.. ANYTHING - when you see THEY ARE READY, and they will 99% of the times agree because this is just HOW WOMEN ARE - they are EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN. They feel it? They do it! So when they feel excited and ready - START CLOSING!!).
Is that all?
No, but that's definitely enough for alot of women. You see, My belief is that many women, if they are already attracted to you, just need to "feel right" about doing it. And getting them to feel right is just through using everything I just explained above - experimenting with your vibes, formats and themes to get an ongoing, enjoyable, exciting interaction. For many women that is all they need, and once you get it they'll start showing you they are ready to be closed. They will start playing with their hair, lean forward, and everything I just said. THAT IS ENOUGH my friends. When you see them go this way, CLOSE, and you it will most likely succeed.
Although still everything I just explained above is related to creating Comfort and (mainly) Interest. You see, you may not have years to become her "friend". But if you can instantly find what she responds best to, she will definitely enjoy every moment with you , may even get turned on .. and all of this EVEN if it's not a sexual thing.
However, now I want to finish this post with talking about the last but not least and probably most important of all, how to create Heat, Arousal and Desire!
HEAT:
Ok, so like I said you can do all the above and alot of women will get to a point when they start sending you this "I'm ready" signals. Then you can propose isolation, and even close them physically (if the logistics allow it, if not - propose isolation).
Then in the isolation, or even before, or even at any moment of the interaction ONCE you've got her feeling comfortable with you and enjoying her time with you, you must start moving things to a sexual direction in order to become a lover.
How do you do it?
1. Kino and Touch. One of the strongest arousing things to women, as they are very sensitive in their body and they respond very strongly to body sensations. To say it short - when you become a great toucher that women enjoy your touch, it starts activating those arousal circuits. To some women a good touch is all she needs to conclude that you may be a wonderful lover. I believe that almost any woman out there LIKES and enjoys a good touch, although it may or may not arouse some and others not.
2. A Kiss. This is again related to kino and touch, but a good kiss can be one of the most turning on things to a woman. Learn how to kiss properly, so that when the time comes (or: she shows you "she's ready") and you're in isolation, you kiss her so passionately she'll drip her pants off! A golden tip here: always go for kissing her on the neck first before the lips. The neck is one of the most erotic spots in a woman's body, and when kissed properly in this spot alone, you can get a woman dripping wet in less than a minute. A good kiss on the neck is, in my opinion, the best tool you can use to get her all heated up and ready for sex.
3. Sexual themes. Women can get unbelievably turned on from talking about sex alone just like we do. The guys in the community who say "women don't get turned on from words, just touch" is nothing but BULLSHIT. Women get turned on from talking about sex JUST AS MUCH as we are. It all depends how you introduce it and when. If you do it after comfort and interest is there, it will work. If you try to do it as your first move it will almost always look wierd and creepy although even that CAN work sometimes LOL... Anyways, I usually like to start by talking about what a wonderful massage feels like. Women realy tend to visualize almost anything you say very vividly. And if you can describe a perfect massage to her, and preferably do it in a VAGUE language that she can fill in with her own most desired way of massaging (thanks Ross Jeffries again for this!), she will almost likely get VERY TURNED ON FROM IT and want it right now! Never underestimate the power of words. Again - how she responds will tell you. Maybe she just wants to get physical, and maybe she needs to be turned on verbally first. Only your experimentation and testing will reveal the answer to this!
4. Sexual Ambiguity. OK, Sometimes the situation doesn't allow any physical move, and talking to her directly about a sexual theme may scare her or completely alarm her. That doesn't mean she doesn't want it, it just means you have to use a more "sneaky" way to get her turned on, and that's where sexual ambiguities come in. For example: "One of my best friends, Dick, has a very long.. and thick.. hair, that he always keeps talking about" (Slightly emphasizing the marked words, not blatantly so she notices it, but in a way that A. Makes these word stand out a little, B. Make the whole thing feel as if you say it naturally so it is not noticed consciously by her). See what I did? You put in the word "Dick", "Very long" and "Thick".. and even though the sentence itself talks about your friend, Dick, it contains words in it that CAN BE INTERPRETED in the other "meaning" they have :-) (Which is sexual). This "injects" sexual ideas and images to the mind of a woman in a way that feels, to her, as if it came from within herself - as if SHE'S the one who thought about it. And the good thing about it is that you can include it in any theme or conversation. Although a small tip here - they will usually be more noticed (or interpreted sexually) if you brought up any sexual topic BEFORE them, even in a way that doesn't feel like YOU said it (maybe quote someone..). Anyways, it still doesn't change the fact that it makes her THINK about a LONG AND THICK DICK (LOL!). And .. do you think that if she thinks about it.. it doesn't turn her on? Think again my friend. Boy oh boy do they get turned on from it, and yes it may even go all around in her mind so that she starts thinking about whether or not YOUR DICK is long and thick.. and if she starts thinking THAT.. the way from here to sex, or to her to start giving you the "I'm ready" signals is VERY short.
So you see? Even as fast as the heat goes, there's more than one way to use, and again I can't realy tell you which way would work best although usually once a woman feels comfortable and interested you can just start touching her and see how she responds. In my experience, MOST WOMEN responds VERY GOOD to touching that I just assume that touch and kino, as well as a good kiss on the neck, are my top 2 ways to get women turned on, which is why I listed them both here. In my experience, almost ANY TIME I managed to start kissing a girl on the neck in a passionate way it ALWAYS led to sex and the bedroom. They just get so dripping wet from it it's as powerful, on them, the effect just as much as when you have an erection for a woman.
And again remember, I get back to Heat: just doing Comfort and Interest, while they speed up your process tremendously and lay out the best and ideal base ground to seduce her, I see them only as another step before actually starting to heat the girl up sexually which is what you TRUELY want from the interaction.
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
ALWAYS AIM AT HEATING THEM!
OK.
And that's it for this post.
-- leedrag0n.
